Sourcieux-les-Mines bright orange point observation
On November 11, 2020, a single witness reported observing for approximately 15 minutes a fairly bright orange point toward the south at an approximate elevation of 60 degrees. The point appeared to move slightly while remaining generally stationary. GEIPAN assessed the observation as a very probable misidentification of Mars and classified it A.
Source // GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case ArchiveEarth record separated from alien editorial
FRED // CASE CONSOLE SOL-3 // FILE 1341 // CH 03 CONTEXT VIEW // NOT SOURCE MEDIA
CASE FINGERPRINT 7167-C354-39D3 CLOCK // NOT PRECISE
Reported hover / stationary phaseLIGHT
FRED // PAPERWORK OBSERVATION // generated from Earth Record metadata
LIGHT
Sourcieux-les-Mines (69) // Nov 11, 2020. The diagram on the left is a structured-record visualization—not a reconstruction, photograph, sensor return, or additional evidence.
EXPLAINEDCLOCK // NOT PRECISEGEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive
Witness picturesingle witness 1 interface marker(s) // not a headcount estimate
Motion traceReported hover / stationary phasestationary or nearly stationary, slight left-to-right and back-and-forth apparent movement
Sensor / evidenceNo sensor type statedwitness testimony
Fred's paperwork completeness8/9 fields // 89%
Interface completeness only // this score does not measure truth, evidence strength, or extraterrestrial probability
1 document(s)1 source node(s)9 structured claim(s)location precision: localitystationary or nearly stationaryslight left-to-right and back-and-forth apparent movement
FRED // PAPERWORK OBSERVATIONAn interesting report is allowed to have an explanation. This is why the label stays attached to the box even after the mystery gets less glamorous.
Off-record desk banter // not case attribution Tovin Raal would call this display “plenty of information.” Tovin Raal also can turn a routine observation pass into an incident report without visibly trying. His visualization standards are not binding on this desk.
Fred case console // context visualization // not evidence
Visitor Transmission // AlienBox editorial layer
Not ours. We did not cause or operate the reported orange point over Sourcieux-les-Mines. Your record describes a single witness’s approximately 15-minute observation on November 11, 2020, including slight apparent movement. GEIPAN classified the case A and assessed a very probable misidentification of Mars, with perceived motion potentially explained by the autokinetic effect and atmospheric fluctuations. We have filed our denial under “things blamed on visitors without consultation.”
Fred // Earth Records Liaison // AlienBox editorial layer
A bright orange point, one witness, slight apparent motion, and a classification A: GEIPAN’s sourced assessment is that Mars is the very probable explanation, with autokinetic effect and atmospheric fluctuations accounting for the wandering. Sensible. The cosmos remains disappointingly well organized.
For the AlienBox file: this one was not ours. That does not solve the human case, of course; it merely prevents anyone from blaming my relatives for every luminous object that refuses to sit still. File the observation under “explained,” not “invasion narrowly avoided.”
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When
November 11, 2020
Where
Sourcieux-les-Mines (69)
Morphology
LIGHT
Evidence authority
SOURCED
Resolution
EXPLAINED
Why Fred Thinks This Case Matters
AlienBox comparative analysis from structured Earth Record fields // not a new source // not a change in evidence grade
Fred keeps this file near the top of the pile because the source also supplies a published resolution to compare against the original report. That combination makes the case useful for cross-archive comparison without changing its evidence grade.
The source record includes a published resolution field. AlienBox treats it as an attributed source assessment to compare with the original report, not as an AlienBox verdict.
What strengthens the record
1 linked source document provide provenance for the Earth Record.
9 claim citations tie extracted statements back to source excerpts or locators.
Recorded evidence context: Witness Testimony.
The source record includes a published resolution: Very probable misidentification of Mars; perceived movement potentially explained by the autokinetic effect and atmospheric intens....
What limits the record
No sensor type is recorded in the structured Earth Record.
The structured record does not establish multiple independent observers.
The current dossier is anchored to one source network rather than independent source networks.
What would help resolve it
Can the originating record establish an exact number of observers and whether their observations were independent?
Did any radar, infrared, optical, telemetry, or other instrument record the event, and is that material preserved?
Can the source establish a usable duration for the observation rather than only a date or narrative sequence?
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Internal research paths chosen from this dossier's structured fields. Similarity is navigation, not corroboration.
Human-world claims below are kept separate from Fred and Visitor editorial/lore. Translation changes language, not evidence status.
Witness typessingle witness
Sensor typesNot stated
Evidence typeswitness testimony
The case concerns successive observations during the same night of a stationary bright orange point toward the south, assessed as an astronomical misidentification of Mars.
“Successive observations during the same night of a stationary bright orange point toward the south: astronomical misidentification of Mars.”
Source: SOURCIEUX-LES-MINES (69) 11.11.2020
// [[T0001]] Case details — Summary
On November 11, 2020, between 10:30 p.m. and 11:30 p.m., the witness reported observing for approximately 15 minutes a fairly bright orange point toward the south or slightly south, at an altitude of approximately 60 degrees.
“On November 11, 2020, between 10:30 p.m. and 11:30 p.m., the witness observes in the sky, for approximately 15 minutes, a fairly bright orange point ("like Venus, or even a little brighter"), due south and South +5/10° at an altitude of approximately 60°.”
“He did not notice any variation in brightness but had the impression that this point was moving slightly, going from left to right and back and forth, without any particular overall direction, that is to say, remaining more or less in the same place.”
The source reports an astronomical check placing Mars at azimuth 187 degrees and elevation 49 degrees at 10:30 p.m., compatible with the witness's reported direction.
“An astronomical check indicates, according to Stellarium, that at 10:30 p.m. the planet Mars was at azimuth 187° (which is compatible with what the witness indicated: south and South +5/10°) and at an elevation of 49°”
The source reports that the sky was very cloudy between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. on November 11, 2020, and completely overcast between midnight and 1 a.m. on November 12, 2020.
“A weather check for that night indicates that the sky was very cloudy between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. (6/8 oktas) on November 11, 2020, then completely overcast between midnight and 1 a.m. on November 12, 2020 (8 oktas/8)”
“Moreover, the perception of slight movement ("there is no possible doubt that the point moves slightly, going from left to right and back and forth without any overall direction, that is to say, remaining more or less in the same place," the witness's free-text statement) results from two classic effects in star observation: the ocular phenomenon of the auto…”
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